Paid32?

[seodoc]

Anybody here ever heard of Paid32 before?


How reliable are they and whats their commission like?


They just got an ad on the homepage and just looking for a little info on them. Thanks.

[RX-MEX.COM]

did you see the banner on the main page ?


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[pillz]

I thnk it's Jason's program.

[RxRob]

Nice site, j. smileys/smiley1.gif

[phonehome]

Where can I get an "invitation code"?

[NewbiusMaximus]

Sit and stare at the banner reeeeaaaaalllllll hard, and it will apear. or try:

3235486smileys/smiley8.gif

[phonehome]

<laughs>


Just found the banner in question smileys/smiley9.gif

[JayB]

All you have to do is click on the banner and it will populate the invitation field for ya. Just click on the banner and fill out the form. Click on it, fill outform. Just go to the bottom of the home page of www.rxaffiliateforum.com (http://www.rxaffiliateforum.com) and click on the banner and fill out the sign up form. I'm still waiting on a few of these old-timers around here to click on the banner and complete the form.


BTW - I heard thatrepetition is the key to successful advertising. smileys/smiley2.gif

[daweller]

I am very interested in this...


Before I even thought of promoting OPs, I have been promoting debt consolidation...


So if anyone knows if Paid32 pays... and on time... that would be great!

[scottdaman]

Ah yes, but it is run by a cool dude! smileys/smiley2.gif

[daweller]

The thing I would like to know, is with all the debt consolidation programs out there, why choose the one offered by Paid32?


ie. Why promote their debt consolidation website(s) over other ones...


I'm just wondering, because it looks like you actually have to get the lead to sign up for the program... which would seem more difficult than just getting leads.


Unless their websites are really nice looking and instill the customer with such confidence that he will decide to go with them based on that...


If anyone has a link to one of Paid 32's debt consolidation websites, could you post a link so I could see what they look like/offer...


Thankssmileys/smiley4.gif

[redex]

Why choose Charmin over Scott Tissue?

[JayB]

99% of all debt consolidation sites/agencies work like this - the potential client fills out a form, usually anywhere from 6-15 fields long, submits the form, and then someone calls him back a few minutes later and attempts to collect all of his personal data, employment history, creditor account #'s, balances, monthly payment amounts, bank info for ACH, etc. After an hour or 2 of data collecting and IF the person has his account statements handy, the rep quotes the person a new monthly payment and attempts to close the deal.


We've streamlined things a bit.


We've taken the above mumbo jumbo and put it on the internet. We let the lead do all of the data entry, give them an online quote in real time based on the creditor info they've entered,and we have ourselves an easy close. This model,combined withour overall sense of generousity, allows us to pay more than anyone else.






I'm just wondering, because it looks like you actually have to get the lead to sign up for the program... which would seem more difficult than just getting leads.





The most difficult thing to do daweller is to get the lead in the door. The rest is a numbers game. Regardless of leads, we know that we will close approximately 3% of your site visitors (from se traffic). It may take 3 days, it may take 14 days. Before we officially go-live, we will implement yet another commission structure that is based on a flat rate per lead plus a recurring %. And you can toggle back in forth with these for structures anytime by just calling us and saying "Switch me to _____ comm. today."So if you see that clients aren't converting fast enough, switch to the lead + recurring model (which is coming out soon).


Keep the questions coming. I'm back to my 18hrs a day, 7 days a week mode. I.... I finallyfeel like an affiliate director again..... smileys/smiley19.gifsmileys/smiley4.gif

[DaveM]

JayB,


I had an opportunity to talk to your support people yesterday who were very helpful and professional. Your template builder works great and I look forward to us making serious money together!


Thanks.

[dpillz]

JayB,



I had an opportunity to talk to your support people yesterday who were very helpful and professional. Your template builder works great and I look forward to us making serious money together!



Thanks.

Yes !

they answer emails, they are very helpful and Jason seems to be a friendly person who answers his phone on the 2nd ring :)

some OPs should learn to be like that ...

also after DL-ing the site I would check Netscape/Mozilla (some sites seem to be BAD with non-IE browsers ...)

nah ...i gotta work :)

[JayB]

PM me the url plz so we can see whichtemplate is having problems. I believe they were created in sets of 4, so if 1 is acting up, that means at least 3 others are acting up too.

[BluePill]

I signed up and have my site ready at CreditPremier.com.


Let me know when all is completely fixed andready to start.


My tempalte was fine but a little glitch I had to manually fix:


On the left menu there was (and there is) an "About us" link, while on the bottom navigation menu there was an "Our Company" link and it was broken, I have now placed "About us" with correct link there too.


Also I eliminated the left link to a Miscellaneous page which was empty as I had no idea what to place there, I have instead added Member Login link on the left menu too.


I hope this program will be serious and affiliate friendly because I am sincerely sick to have to email people to remind them they owe me commissions and,in no few cases, do not even get a reply after having make them money.


I plan to test the program forwarding some of my credit related type-in for some weeks and keeping track of the conversion rate to see if my trafficis suitable foryour program.


Regards,

[rxmary]

Is this live yet?





Got my site up and also had problem with the "About Us" and "Our Company" links, plus the sign up/orderform page is blank.

[dpillz]

On the left menu there was (and there is) an "About us" link, while on the bottom navigation menu there was an "Our Company" link and it was broken, I have now placed "About us" with correct link there too.


Also I eliminated the left link to a Miscellaneous page which was empty as I had no idea what to place there, I have instead added Member Login link on the left menu too.

quickfix for the lazy:
$ln -s aboutus.php ourcompany.php

[dpillz]

Is this live yet?





Got my site up and also had problem with the "About Us" and "Our Company" links, plus the sign up/orderform page is blank.

read the doc, and run admin.php after giving rights to the webserver to write config.php
that helps a lot

smileys/smiley7.gif RTFM ! smileys/smiley7.gif

[rxmary]

I did all 19 steps.


I'll do them again.


No need to have a meltdown.

[daweller]

You guys might want to check this out, I don't know if it is and error, but AFTER you fill out a complete application... you get this:



<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><T><T>
<T>
<TR>
<TD width="100%" colSpan=2>
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="90%" border=1><T><T>
<T>
<TR>
<TD class=summarySubCat align=middle>Creditor[/B]</TD>
<TD class=summarySubCat align=middle>Account Number</TD>
<TD class=summarySubCat align=middle>Balance</TD>
<TD class=summarySubCat align=middle>Current Payment</TD>
<TD class=summarySubCat align=middle>New Payment</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=summarySubCatLabel>Bank of America - NB</TD>
<TD class=summarySubCatLabel>XXXXXXXXXXXX1235</TD>
<TD class=summarySubCatLabel>$5000.00</TD>
<TD class=summarySubCatLabel>$150.00</TD>
<TD class=summarySubCatLabel>$75.38</TD></TR></T></T></T></TABLE></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD colSpan=2></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD class=summarying align=middle width="100%" colSpan=2>Your new monthly payment is $114.38 </TD></TR></T></T></T></TABLE>





Looks to me like the 'New Payment' numbers do not match... (ie should they both read $75.38 )?


Should they no both read the SAME amount???


Thanks

[JayB]

Daweller-


Click on "Plan Details" on that same page and you'll see an itemized breakdown ofhow the funds are distributed to creditors. In that list,there is a $39/month account maintenance fee. Hence $114.38 - $75.38 = $39. You get a piece of that $39 (depending on the selected comm. structure 0-50%). The co. that handles debt consolidation clients again disclose any applicable fees by phone and, of course, before they sign a contract. HTH


dpillz- Congrats on learning thesite's functionalityso well. If I have any questions, I'll give you a call. I stinkat php andI can't stand computerssmileys/smiley4.gif.

[DaveM]

A simple to understand, comprehensiveexplanation given in under 12 hours with a little self abuse thrown in!


JayB, you the man.


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[stevie]

i did a test run and used a 5,000 debt with a $80/month payment, while the sample saved me on interest fees it made the actual new payment HIGHER.

[JayB]

2 reasons:


1.An $80/month payment on $5K in debt is unrealistic. Use 3% of the balance, which in this case, would have been $150 (instead of $80) and you would have saved on the monthly payment and interest (and time, which is a combination of payment and interest savings). Try it again Stevie and let us know what happens.


2. Most people have 4-5 credit cards. This distributes that $39/month fee over 4-5 creditors and it has less impact than using only 1 creditor.

[pharm_boy]

Hey Jason,


Just to let you know, I'm very happy with the program so far.


I probably should've read the readme file, but a phone call later and my site is up and live (debtaway.org if anyone's curious).


Nice work.

[NewbiusMaximus]

I've been happy so far...and I know you're still not officially live smileys/smiley1.gif, but when will you have more than 2 operators following up on leads? I've noticed all of my leads are still stuck at L1 and only a few at L2.


Thus far, superior communication and support! smileys/smiley20.gif

[rxmary]

turned out to be a problem with my hosting....


Switched and ready to go!

[JayB]

Wewill have 5 reps manning the phones when we go live. I've staggered there start dates over the next 2 weeks so that we can have some individualized time for training. But we have to make sure that we can handle what you guys send before I give the green light - the last thing that I wan t is for you to send us leads and we can't close them. That would be a nightmare, so if the go-live date is pushed back, it's because I'm not yet satisfied with our closing %. Patience folks, we're doing this the right way the first time 'round. smileys/smiley4.gif

[DaveM]

JayB,


What is the tentative schedule for Paid 32 to go live?


Thanks in advance.

[JayB]

In the past, I've always got in trouble for answering questions like that ;) Soooo, I'll have to take the political route and say that it looks like within the coming weeks (definitely within a month from today's date) and we'll keep you posted.

[dpillz]

Anyone has an idea what
L (CLM1)
means in the status field ? it is on the Lead status/report page :)

i might have missed reading some faqs ? :)

[JayB]

dpillz-


Click on the white question mark in the "Status" column and you will find an explanation for all lead status and process points. CLM1 means thatarephas called the lead and left a message.

[dpillz]

dpillz-


Click on the white question mark in the "Status" column and you will find an explanation for all lead status and process points. CLM1 means that a rep has called the lead and left a message.

ahm yep :) thanks ... I did not notice that the question mark was a link ... it makes sense though :)

what would a question mark be doing there without a link :)

thanks
again ....

[RxRob]

I tried to post here 15 times and keep getting an internal server error smileys/smiley7.gif

[RxRob]

Jason, are your templates completely stand alone websites? If so, can we delete references and links to USA Debt Management?

[JayB]

The only reference to USA Debt Management is in the welcome e-mail. It's best if we mention USADM there because USADM is going to call the lead soon after the receive that e-mail. Other than that, the sites are stand alone.

[pharm_boy]

Thanks! I had recruits asking the same question.

[RxRob]

Is anyone else's signup page down? Mine was working fine yesterday, but I edited a few pages today and now the signup page is blank. smileys/smiley5.gif


I don't know if I moused something up, or they are working on the backend.

[pharm_boy]

My signup page is working no probs. You may need to run through the readme file again.

[RxRob]

My signup page is working no probs. You may need to run through the readme file again.


pharm_boy, you're a genious! *edit* I can't even spell genius *


That's what I had to do, read the readme, seriously.


Yesterday, I started using Dreamweaver MX to upload my pages, instead of WS_FTP like I normally do. So, when I synchonized my site, Dreamweaver uploaded the original config.php file. smileys/smiley1.gif


I redid the setup and it's working.


Thanks.

[pharm_boy]

No prob.


Now if anyone knows how to turn off the pop up without breaking the site...?


Maybe I should read the readme...


I'm thinking, comment out the bold bits below:


&lt;script language="JavaScript"&gt;function makepopupwindow(){openWindow = window.open('popups/PopUp2.html','popad','toolbar=no,locatio n=no,directories=no,status=no,menubar=no,scrollbar s=no,resiz able=no,width=450,height=250');}&lt;/script&gt;



&lt;body onLoad="makepopupwindow();" topmargin="0" leftmargin="0"&gt;

[RxRob]

Yep,taking out the onLoad="makepopupwindow();" from the body tag should do it.

[pharm_boy]

Woohoo! No popup and I didn't break the join form.

[Ponomo]

JayB - so how's the conversions coming along? Are you getting close to the target?

[Ponomo]

Just a quick question that I'm sure is going to come up sooner or later. I noticed that there was an announcement on another forum (abestweb) for paid32.


What's the point of us running our own affiliate program if everyone knows about the paid32 program? Doesn't give us much of a chance.

[JayB]

We didn't announce the program at abestweb and this is the first I've heard of it. Lemme check it out...


We're still working on conversions and hiring more people to man the phones. That's the last thing holding us back.

[JayB]

Hmmm.... This puts me between a rock and a hard place. The affiliate program that Paid32 marketing partners offer is meant to supplement the site. We are working with every OP owner (except 1 ;) and every A.D. right now and they are recruiting marketing partners for us.That's what you see at abestweb. Again, if you originate traffic, the affiliate program that you can offer is meant to supplement your traffic. I know of one seo guy (he doesn't come here though so I can say this) who is running an affiliate program on his site and going after small, virtually unknown financially related sites for affiliates and offering them $12/lead. He looks at it like this - if the affiliate links to his site and only sends 1 lead a month, so what. The affiliate link passes on PR and the site's theme to his and he gets the backlink benefit.

[Ponomo]

Well it doesn't sound like this was very well thought out and I think there are going to be a lot of disappointed people that had intentions of running an affiliate program. Looks like the only people that we'll be able to sign up are the newbies, idiots, and lead crooks. smileys/smiley6.gif

[seodoc]

JayB,


I read that 'credit check' (followed closely by 'debt consolidation') is the most commonly searched for thing on the net.


Do you have any plans of offering that or any related financial services in the future?


Cross-promotion could be promising.

[JayB]

I wonder if 'credit check' is the same thing as a credit report? Because we've had several leads thus far as for credit reports. Interesting... but, we can't get spread too thin right now. I'll put it on the todo board.

[RxRob]

I thought the program wasn't going live until next month. smileys/smiley5.gif

[JayB]

RxRob-


Wehave 2 sites that are collecting a few leads a day just to test/refinethe software and perfect operations. You didn't miss anything. I'll be in South FL 'til Sat. afternoon. I hope things hold up around here until then. smileys/smiley2.gif

[Ponomo]

Hmmm.... This puts me between a rock and a hard place. The affiliate program that Paid32 marketing partners offer is meant to supplement the site. We are working with every OP owner (except 1 ;) and every A.D. right now and they are recruiting marketing partners for us.That's what you see at abestweb. Again, if you originate traffic, the affiliate program that you can offer is meant to supplement your traffic. I know of one seo guy (he doesn't come here though so I can say this) who is running an affiliate program on his site and going after small, virtually unknown financially related sites for affiliates and offering them $12/lead. He looks at it like this - if the affiliate links to his site and only sends 1 lead a month, so what. The affiliate link passes on PR and the site's theme to his and he gets the backlink benefit.


So in other words, don't plan on making too much money with it, but use it to increase link popularity.

[oldboy2000]

Can anyone shed light on this one:


I went through the usual challenges, finally got the site up and running. The signup form appears and I fill it out OK through page 2. But when I am done, I hit the submit button and it acts like it is trying to change pages (there is a small flicker like a screen refresh) but it stays on the same page. JayB offered help if I could phone him but I am almost never around the phone. It looks like it might be an easy fix but I am stumped. Any suggestions?


Thanks ahead of time.

[medic]

hi,


I've got welcome email from paid32, and there is advice to get SSL sertificate .


How to get SSL - I live outside USA, so hav't US address!smileys/smiley3.gifIn my country to get SSL sert very hard and expensive - over $400 ! And I'm not sure is it be ggod for US browsers?


Anybody know - how can I get USA SSL sert. for my site?


I'll host at US hosting company. They can give me SHARED SSL, but only as subdomain under their domain. But I want to have my SSL.


Regards, medic


P.S. Sorry my bad Englishsmileys/smiley19.gif

[phalaris]

hi,


I've got welcome email from paid32, and there is advice to get SSL sertificate .


How to get SSL - I live outside USA, so hav't US address!smileys/smiley3.gifIn my country to get SSL sert very hard and expensive - over $400 ! And I'm not sure is it be ggod for US browsers?


Anybody know - how can I get USA SSL sert. for my site?


I'll host at US hosting company. They can give me SHARED SSL, but only as subdomain under their domain. But I want to have my SSL.


Regards, medic


P.S. Sorry my bad Englishsmileys/smiley19.gif





If you are buying SSL certificate from verisign or thawte, then it is very costlyfor those living outside USA.


I suggest buying cert from ev1serves.net . It will cost you $49 and it does not matter which country you live in.


Also some hosting companies like pair.com also provide the same for $49 and this includes free installation of the cert with your domain and once again it doesn't matter where you live.

[redex]

I suggest buying cert from ev1serves.net . It will cost you $49 and it does not matter which country you live in.


And you get it today, not in two weeks. smileys/smiley16.gif

[BluePill]

ev1serves.net = ev1serveRs.net


I saw other one for $39 at FreeSSL.com but I do not know if it is good or not.


My problem is that I have no idea how to set up this SSL certificate thing, will have to ask to my hosting serviceif they can do it for me.


Also: once the certificate thingis installed on the server what else I need to do , I mean whatI have to modifyon the template site?


Iplan towait until the program is settled and running for a few weeks before to eventually go ahead and buy/install an SSL certificate however I am investigating from now to be ready when necessary.

[NewbiusMaximus]

Ponomo, when you generated the site, did you say that you will be getting an SSL? Does your host curretnly provide that SSL or is it on the to do list?


If the SSL is not up yet, remove the s in the https:// in the submit field.


This worked for me.

[dpillz]

hi,


I've got welcome email from paid32, and there is advice to get SSL sertificate .


How to get SSL - I live outside USA, so hav't US address!smileys/smiley3.gif In my country to get SSL sert very hard and expensive - over $400 ! And I'm not sure is it be ggod for US browsers?


Anybody know - how can I get USA SSL sert. for my site?


I'll host at US hosting company. They can give me SHARED SSL, but only as subdomain under their domain. But I want to have my SSL.


Regards, medic


P.S. Sorry my bad Englishsmileys/smiley19.gif

Try registerfly.com ... I really do hate them, their page is slow as hell (too many little fancy sh*tty buttons and stuff) and they FSCK their affiliates (or shareasale does)
anyway, they sell dirt cheap ($30-35 ssl certs with no hassle and 100s of company papers) ..
other hand: most people do not have any idea what https/http is ...

you might also consider self-signing your cert ... well an untrusted authority box will popup (which might be more alarming than the lack of ssl imho)

i am sure some others sell no hassle cheapo ssl certs too ... I jsut started with registerfly, so I stay there being lazy to move

[Affiliate]

Just a quick question that I'm sure is going to come up sooner or later. I noticed that there was an announcement on another forum (abestweb) for paid32.


What's the point of us running our own affiliate program if everyone knows about the paid32 program? Doesn't give us much of a chance.





Jason, we talked about this a while ago. I can see this being a problem in the future. Pharm_boy has already made himself the paid32 delegate over at abestweb. The way I look at it... if you want to offer your own affiliate program with paid32 your going to have to do a bit of deceiving. Pharm_boy is already back peddling over at abestweb.

[RxRob]

Just read the thread.


I guess that does it for this program, good thing I didn't buy that secure cert, yet. smileys/smiley17.gif

[pharm_boy]

I'm lost here...


Is there some reason this forum should be the one and only PUBLIC place this program is ever announced?


See that banner at the top of this very page? Yep, Admin is also recruiting for Paid32.


I'm certainly not so classless asto compete with his recruiting efforts on his own board, but purchasing space on another board, hell yes.


There are other recruiters.


There will be other partners.


There will be competition.


Why you would expect and/or demand otherwise is beyond me.


In the end, it will still be the bestmarketers that are able to take the program and run. Most of you have managed to do very well inOP, avery competitive market. I should think this one wouldn't be any greater challenge...


Eathan

[RxRob]

I just find it hard to believe that Jason, a marketing company owner, didn't know enough to spend $50 and announce his program on abestweb himself.


What do pharm_boy, admin and the like get out of referring people? Is this the part of the program that was "by invitation only". I don't see where I can set up an affiliate link to to refer people to paid 3 2.

[Ponomo]

The difference is that you are recruiting to the paid32 program. It would be entirely different if you were recruiting in to your own program using the paid32 affiliate software, paying $12 per lead. But now, the program has been opened up to the 13,700 affiliate members at abw. So now, paid32 is bringing in as partners the very affiliates that we were going to recruit.


So much for private offering to a small group. We are left to fight over the affiliate crumbs.


I'm sure Jason had private conversations with a lot of us and I'm sure a lot of us were under the same impression. The way I see it now, you may as well scrap the affiliate feature. It's value has been cheapened.

[Thinker]

Yeah, I saw this one too


http://abw.infopop.cc/eve/ubb.x?a=tpc&amp;s=548608979&amp;f= (http://abw.infopop.cc/eve/ubb.x?a=tpc&amp;s=548608979&amp;f=8666019411&amp;m=534107334) 8666019411&amp;m=534107334


I like this dialog:
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">


Ithink it's important to mention pharm_boy isn't the affiliate director for paid32. He is just an affiliate like the rest of us. If you cut out the middle man (pharm_boy) you will make more money. Think about that before you sign up with his affiliate link!


So Pharm_boy said...


Actually, that's not true.

I'm not posting as a Marketing Partner recruiting Affiliates. I am posting as a recruiter working with paid32.com/?inv=3235486 to bring in productive Marketing Partners.

You won't make a penny more by "cutting out the middle man" and the suggestion is similar to telling surfers to bypass affiliate links or advertising altogether.</BLOCKQUOTE>


Looks like Jason is working with Ethan on this one. Best of luck to the two of you.

[daweller]

Sounds to me like you guys are sending leads already...


Jayb: can I send you some leads yet... just a few... or do we really need to hold off still,


I'm itching to make money :p

[DaveM]

JayB what have you done? You had a good thing going here and then you let Eathan f**k it up.


Eathan, you got so much time on your hands why don't you get the past due commissions RxMedical owes us paid. Wonder how many affiliates will want to sign up under you knowing how well you handled that disaster. Do you think that you are just going to walk away from that clean? No way is that stink not going to stick.



BTW - I heard thatrepetition is the key to successful advertising. http://rxaffiliateforum.com/smileys/smiley2.gif

[Affiliate]

I want to add,I'm 100% positive that the paid32 affiliate program is going to be a great one. Jason revolutionized the Rx industry and I know he is going to do the same for the debt consolidation industry. I plan on putting up some debts sites and I know they are going to do very well but we all can't be recuiters if one guy is going to go to abestweb and act as tho he is the AD for the program.


I appoligize if anyone took that the wrong way. Once again, I know it's going to be a great program with or without the recruiterplus sideof the program. I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure Pharm_boy is an AD... he is not a marketer like most of us here. He took on the role as a recruiter because most likely he's not going to compete with us in the search engines and PPC. He probably doesn't have the skills.

[NewbiusMaximus]

I have plans for recruitment, but not for a while. Think about the risks. It is you (your company) in the Affiliate agreement and Terms of Service. If Paid32 should pack up and leave, yourthe one stuck with the bill for all the leads from your affiliates - and any conversions to pay for them gone. No disrespect to Jason and Iknow he wouldn't just bail, but going belly up is another possibility; this is just common business sense.


You'll be legally bound to pay what you owe your affiliates for leads generated and a return you'd never see.


But hey,rewards come withrisks right? Maybe I'm just trying to scare away any competition smileys/smiley2.gif. I plan to take that risk down the road. Build up my bank roll a little bigger first. There's notonly the costs of your affiliates, but more 3rd party accountant services, checks, postage costs, etc. Recruitment for this program won't be for the faint of heart.

[daweller]

Newbius,


Your avitar just gave me a seizure!


smileys/smiley3.gif

[RxRob]

Yeah, the lead program is still solid, but I now have this HMU feeling about the deal...


Nothing like feeling like you are at the bottom tier of 15 levels of affiliates.

[redex]

Yeah, the lead program is still solid, but I now have this HMU feeling about the deal...


Nothing like feeling like you are at the bottom tier of 15 levels of affiliates.





LOL I always wondered why 30 pills base cost was $50, 60 pills base cost was $75 and 90 pills base cost was $150

[RxRob]

LOL smileys/smiley4.gif

[pharm_boy]

Guys, the ABW thread has been viewed 325 times.


Compare to this thread atover 5500 times, and you'll see that far from opening the floodgates, it's more of a drop in the bucket.


Affiliate, I've beenin Internet Marketing and SEO since '96, and imagine I could do pretty well on that side of things, but a couple years ago I shifted my focus to working with programs, in this case recruiting.


I'll dabble a bit, but you're right, I won't be going after affiliates and trying to build my personal site up. I'm recruiting for the main program, not my program.


DaveM,I'm sorry you're upset, but I've never wronged anyone in this industry. Working my ass off for a paycheckdoesn't make methe boogey man.


RxRob, I can get youin the door at $28 + 36% residual... smileys/smiley8.gif


That was a joke of course. Honestly, I thinkthey did a good job of avoiding that with this program. The commission levels are set, regardless of how you hear about the program, so it eliminatesa lotof that garbage.


Anyway, I hope this helps clear the air a bit.

[JayB]

Let me just say that we want to do business with people who are good atwhat they doand give them all of the tools and money that they need to get the job done. So...


For marketing partners, we've accomplished this with the site generator, the best and most comprehensive stats in the debt industry, a voracious ad campaign tracking (coming out very shortly), top notch support that can actually solve easy or complex tech problems without the bureaucracy, ability to recruit affiliates whose links pass on link pop, and last but not least, more cash than any other debt program out there.


For thehandful ofrecruiters we have, these areindividuals or companies that have immediate access to hundreds, if not thousands, of affiliates in other industries. With that said, most recruiters don't want the burden of even building a website, much less driving debt consolidation traffic to it with affiliates.Most recruiters will make 95% of their revenue from referring marketing partners to us vs. making money off of originating traffic (which is what most people here are good at).


OTOH- Most marketing partners will make 95% of their revenue from originating debt consolidation clients. Think about this - for those of us who remember e-Script's old 2 tier program when it first came out - what portion of your income did your 2nd tier represent?I betit was a very small portion, BUT when you saw a few bucks in there you were like "Yes! Free money!" because most of the time you weren't actively recruiting affiliates - they just stumbled upon your site, clicked on your link to e-Script's, and signed up. I was thinking ofthis scenario around 6 months ago and I decided to let marketing partners recruit there own affiliates. But how could I offer a "2 tier program" when marketing partners are building their own branded websites? The answer was to let them keep their brand by offering an affiliate program of their own site. It's as innocent as that.


One last thing- debt consolidation is a service that can be provided to almost any target audience. For example, I know a person who owns the biggest site about love poems (smileys/smiley11.gif) on the internet. This person only wants to sign up as an affiliate, get a banner, and plug it on her site. She generates an enormous amount of traffic, albeit untargeted,and due to the volume and the fact that almost everyone in the U.S. is in debt, she would make an excellent affiliate for one of our marketing partners (not to mention that the site is PR 7!).She doesn't want to sign up with Paid32, build a debt site,etc. because affiliate programs aren't herbusiness - her business is writing love peoms (smileys/smiley11.gif). There are millions of website owners out there like my friend and all are fair game. Think outside the box people - the internet is a very big place and there is traffic everywhere. Work hard, be creative, and you'll be successful with Paid32.


I hope this clears things up. If not, please PM me or call me to vent smileys/smiley2.gif.


BTW- Speaking of e-Scripts and 2nd tier, did you know that Affiliate (the one who just got through violently bashing Paid32 ;) was my first and most lucrative 2nd tier affiliate at e-Scripts?! Check this out - Iwas usingAffiliate's old company (when he used to work for "the man") to monitor PPC campaigns that I was running for e-Scripts. Well this bastard found out about OP affiliate programs, signed up, and didn't sign up under my friggin' 2nd tier smileys/smiley7.gif! Well, guess what - e-Scripts in all of their, errr, goodness, messed up Affiliate's first check and sent it to my house! What were the odds...Instead of running to my small, back woods bank and cashing it, I politely called him and talked to him about it and begged him to call e-Scripts and explain the situation so that they would pu

[Affiliate]

BTW- Speaking of e-Scripts and 2nd tier, did you know that Affiliate (the one who just got through violently bashing Paid32 ;) was my first and most lucrative 2nd tier affiliate at e-Scripts?! Check this out - Iwas usingAffiliate's old company (when he used to work for "the man") to monitor PPC campaigns that I was running for e-Scripts. Well this bastard found out about OP affiliate programs, signed up, and didn't sign up under my friggin' 2nd tier smileys/smiley7.gif! Well, guess what - e-Scripts in all of their, errr, goodness, messed up Affiliate's first check and sent it to my house! What were the odds...Instead of running to my small, back woods bank and cashing it, I politely called him and talked to him about it and begged him to call e-Scripts and explain the situation so that they would put him in my 2nd tier (he was making millions back then). I greased the palms of the then AD for e-Scripts and we were in business. I have cracked the whip onAffiliate ever since.





Cough... cough... let me add that my first site was created 2 months after you stopped doing business with the company I was working at. It was fair game by then IMO. I'm not that much of a scum bag. That was a very strange how you received my first (or second) commission check. LOL smileys/smiley17.gifI think I more than made up for it with those nice 2nd tier commission I was sending your way ;)


Looking forward to making some money with paid32. How's the IHC Viper drivin these days? Whatever happend to that thing?

[redex]

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How's the IHC Viper drivin these days? Whatever happend to that thing?





At least RxRob got the speakers smileys/smiley16.gif

[JayB]

I traded the Viper in on aDaewoo last September when timessuddenly gothard. With the extended warranty I bought for theDaewoo (only $3,000 extra), I have a 110,000 mile warranty on it (vs 100,000). 7 more years @ $94/month and that baby ismine. Not to shabby, eh?!

[RxRob]

I traded the Bose in for a pound of bologna and a loaf of bread.





J/K smileys/smiley1.gif

[rxmary]

I noticed that on the abestweb thread there isn't any mention of holding off on promotion. So, is there a green light to go ahead and start promoting?

[rxmary]

nevermind, just got the newsletter!

[casinojeff]

So do a lot of you guys think you'll be focusing more on paid32 than on OPs? Is there a paid32forum.com yet? Lol. I haven't set up my site yet.. I will soon though.. Good luck to you all. Sounds like a great program.








CJ