View Full Version : Trying to optimize a template site
heatherhab
March 17th, 2004, 02:53 PM
I am fairly new at SEO and am trying to optimize a template site from Myrxbiz and have a few questions. Have heard that Javascript is a problem with the Search Engines and that you can "go external with scripting languages". Is this possible with one of these sites and where is a good resource on how to do that?
Also, do I optimize every page or just the index page if that is what I am submitting to the SEs? Should my inbound links just go to the index page
Thank you!
phalaris
March 17th, 2004, 03:07 PM
Sooner or later you will realize that you are making a futile effort by trying to optimize templates. Those templates are meant to be used for PPC and not for organic SEO, IMHO.
Use the design elements like product pictures from templates but you will be better off by designing/coding your own site from scratch. That way you'll be able to get lean and mean pages that do well in google and yahoo.
>>>Also, do I optimize every page or just the index page if that is what I am submitting to the SEs?
Although most sales come from index page because most incoming links for new sites are pointing to index page but internal pagesare ranked and hencemake some sales. So optimizeall pages of your site.
krl
March 17th, 2004, 03:45 PM
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phalaris
March 17th, 2004, 03:52 PM
>>>I'vefigured a way to get high rankings with template sites.
Enlighten us.
Steve
March 17th, 2004, 04:05 PM
It is easy to optimize template sites ..no problem whatsoever, so long as static html
Text is the issue, not the f####n images.
But I aint going with no dynamic php/asp stuff
You should optimize for all pages, the least significant is the home page if it covers many products.
rxmed1 had great easily customabletemplates.
my/your/rx do not, php templates..go ppc, or throw in the trash can, I have smileys/smiley7.gif
insanity
March 17th, 2004, 04:13 PM
Sooner or later you will realize that you are making a futile effort by trying to optimize templates. Those templates are meant to be used for PPC and not for organic SEO, IMHO.
Agreed. If not for any other reason than the duplicate filter certain SE's use.
krl
March 18th, 2004, 09:16 AM
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EPSRX
April 5th, 2004, 03:30 AM
Krl,
Why convert an ASP/PHP page to HTML? Is HTML better than PHP/ASP for Search Engines?
redex
April 5th, 2004, 03:52 AM
Krl,
Why convert an ASP/PHP page to HTML? Is HTML better than PHP/ASP for Search Engines?
<a href="phentermine.html">Pherntermine</a>
is a lot better than
<a href="index.php?cat=1&prod=6&some_other_sh*t=abc"> ;Phentermine</a>
EPSRX
April 5th, 2004, 03:59 AM
I agree with what you have said Redex, but what about
<a href="phentermine.php">Pherntermine</a>
I mean does the extension of a file affect the indexing if it was simply just like the example above?
Bad Ass Rocker
April 5th, 2004, 04:55 AM
I disagree with the statement that templates are only worth using with PPC. I happen to have quite a few sites that are templates and rank fairly well after some optimizing. It's not that hard to make the templates seem like their not duplicated...
redex
April 5th, 2004, 07:35 AM
I agree with what you have said Redex, but what about
<a href="phentermine.php">Pherntermine</a>
I mean does the extension of a file affect the indexing if it was simply just like the example above?
Not a pro at SEO but all the mix of sites I have in many markets, filename.php does not seem to matter. I do use .htaccess rewrites on many php sites to serve filename.html instead. Still a matter of esthetics, doesn't seem to affect ranking. Then again all my sites are on page 100 LOL
tmittleman
April 5th, 2004, 08:45 AM
You can optimize for search engines, but you are in one of the most competitive markets so to stand out, you need a lot of quality links pointing in, optimized metas, titles, and good keyword concentrated relevancy on each page. As for the dynamic part do the Mod Rewrite or stick to static html pages.
NewbiusMaximus
April 5th, 2004, 09:33 AM
Now I'm a little nervous....I use .php extensions instead of .html purely for inclusions on my NAVs and for a traffic statistics script. I've done searches and no other top ranking sites out there are in .php. Should I move over to just .html?
dpillz
April 5th, 2004, 12:23 PM
that is what i do:
I grab the template, and from every page I rip the header, the menu, and footer, leaving the "content" with a script ...
redesign header and menu, add title/description/keyword/revisite info depending on the product, and with php i include the core content ....
I user rewrite engine (apache) to catch viagra_whatever.html urls, translating them to something like this : /index.php?product=viagra&page=whatever ... so I can add appropriate heade/keyword, and display the content that belongs to a certain product....
on top of that instead of the java, I use a script to sump everything into a db, so whatever is displayed is static (to search engine crawlers...)
i just switched to xml when talking product info ... and generate content from them (each product has an XML file)
tmittleman
April 5th, 2004, 01:01 PM
The .php is fine... it's the multiple query variable things afteraquestionmark that's the problem. Search engines don't like thosebecause they can get caught in an endless loop trying to spider. If you have thoseyou can do like Dpills says with the rewrite. If you're just using PHP for includes, you'll be fine. You can also use .shtml too, and my understanding is if you ever move hosting to a .asp based server, the .shtml will be fine.
redex
April 5th, 2004, 01:19 PM
You can also use .shtml too, and my understanding is if you ever move hosting to a .asp based server, the .shtml will be fine.
I don't think anyone who has hosted on a linux box would ever consider IIS as a webserver platform. Bill Gates could give me free software for life of every product they force on us and I would never put a site up on IIS>ever.
killroy
April 5th, 2004, 02:49 PM
Extensions are evil... never use 'em...
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